http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1060791.shtml Reckless game over the Korean Peninsula runs risk of real war Source:Global Times Published: 2017/8/10 23:23:40 米国と北朝鮮の無謀な非難応酬のゲームはリアル戦争を招きかねない
Beijing is not able to persuade Washington or Pyongyang to back down at this time. It needs to make clear its stance to all sides and make them understand that when their actions jeopardize China's interests, China will respond with a firm hand. 中国は米国もについても北朝鮮についても、その行動をやめさせる事ができない
China should also make clear that if North Korea launches missiles that threaten US soil first and the US retaliates, China will stay neutral. If the US and South Korea carry out strikes and try to overthrow the North Korean regime and change the political pattern of the Korean Peninsula, China will prevent them from doing so. 韓国と米国が、北朝鮮への軍事的攻撃で、北の政権交代を図るなら中国はそれに 反対して、そうした軍事行動を阻むであろう
China opposes both nuclear proliferation and war in the Korean Peninsula. It will not encourage any side to stir up military conflict, and will firmly resist any side which wants to change the status quo of the areas where China's interests are concerned. It is hoped that both Washington and Pyongyang can exercise restraint. The Korean Peninsula is where the strategic interests of all sides converge, and no side should try to be the absolute dominator of the region. 中国は朝鮮半島における、いかなる現状安定の変更にも反対する 0793日出づる処の名無し2017/08/11(金) 06:58:37.20ID:xwLAAkD3>>792 >North Korea launches missiles that threaten US soil first and the US >retaliates, China will stay neutral.
北朝鮮が米国の領土に向けてミサイルを発射し米国がこれを抑撃するなら 中国は中立を保つであろう 0794日出づる処の名無し2017/08/11(金) 07:34:37.79ID:xwLAAkD3http://www.realclearworld.com/articles/2017/08/10/does_pyongyang_have_washington_cornered_112494.html Does Pyongyang Have Washington Cornered? Select Language There has been a landslide in relations between the US and North Korea. As Pyongyang's military power increases, Washington may find itself cornered into accepting an ugly option in order to move forward. ドイッチェ・ベレ:北朝鮮は米国を追い詰めたか? 北朝鮮と米国の関係に地すべりがおこり、米国は北朝鮮の核武装を認めるか、 あるいは酷く悪い軍事オプションの選択かの岐路にきている
"The United States has 'accepted' that China, Russia, India and Pakistan are nuclear states," said Baker, adding that in some ways the US military already considers North Korea to be a "nuclear power."
"Militarily, the US could manage a nuclear North Korea through traditional deterrence, rather than military action," added Baker. "But from a political perspective, it is not clear whether the US will 'accept' North Korea's membership in the nuclear club."
Richard Bush, Co-Director of the Center for East Asia Policy Studies at the Brookings Institution in Washington, wrote in a report released this week that the danger of accepting North Korea as a nuclear power that it could lead to a collapse of regional stability in Northeast Asia and open the door for the Kim regime to conduct smaller actions against its neighbors
"Once Pyongyang can target the continental United States, it will likely take bigger risks than it has to date. It would undertake such limited-war actions as much to achieve political gains as military ones. It would hope to test South Korean intentions and try to drive wedges within South Korean society," said Bush in the report.(ry 0795日出づる処の名無し2017/08/11(金) 07:57:34.07ID:Fi9s1mZH 飴番長、やっても得るものがないのに、やらないと失うのもは大きい。 アストロ球団じゃないけど、ツッパリ通すのも根性がいるよね。 0796日出づる処の名無し2017/08/11(金) 08:13:31.99ID:xwLAAkD3 StratforのGeorge Friedman、最終的に何らかの軍事オプション行使にな る可能性が高いと考える
I continue to think war is the most likely outcome. But as time has gone on, I’ve noted the complexities of such a war for the United States and have recalled other, much less extreme moments when the North Koreans used their nuclear program as a tool for bargaining.
That was my view until March, when the level of urgency spiked, and I abandoned it and took the view that war was the likely outcome.
I am obligated, however, to point out my previous view, which would have held this to be the mother of all negotiations. If that is going to happen, it must happen quickly. The U.S., South Korea and Japan all have said they want negotiations. But every sign indicates that North Korea is rushing to acquire a deliverable weapon and deter any country from tampering with it. War would occur before North Korea can reach that point, in my view. But in the back of my mind, I have to be open to the possibility that the ferocious, weak and crazy cripple is alive and well. If so, the North Koreans believe they have a precise understanding of the red line. In the end, I don’t believe they do. 0797日出づる処の名無し2017/08/11(金) 08:22:07.86ID:j9QJVbeR 10日放送の「ひるおび!」(TBS系)で、作家の室井佑月氏が、 北朝鮮の「大陸間弾道ミサイル(ICBM)」を、自衛隊の地対空誘導弾パトリオット「PAC3」で迎撃した際のリスクを指摘した。
Missile Defense Agency Director Air Force Lt. General Samuel Greaves said Wednesday he is confident current defenses would be effective against Pyongyang's missiles.
"Yes, we believe that the currently deployed ballistic missile defense system can meet today's threat, and we've demonstrated that capability through testing," Greaves told a conference in Alabama.
Contrary to critics who say ground-based interceptors and naval anti-missile systems are unreliable, retired Air Force Lt. Gen. Trey Obering, a former MDA director, says the Ground-based Midcourse Defense (GMD) provides the best protection from a long-range North Korean strike.
Yet other shorter-range defenses such as the land-based Terminal High Altitude Area Defense, or THAAD, and the Navy's ship-based Aegis SM-3 missiles can knock out medium and intermediate-range North Korean missiles, and if given enough satellite warning could attack North Korea's ICBM warheads, he said.
"Any interceptor can intercept any missile, given the right parameters," Obering said in an interview. "I have high confidence that if we were attacked by North Korea we would be able to defend ourselves." http://freebeacon.com/national-security/u-s-guam-shielded-north-korean-missiles-high-tech-defenses/ U.S. and Guam Shielded From North Korean Missiles by High-Tech Defenses BY: Bill Gertz August 10, 2017 5:00 am 0821日出づる処の名無し2017/08/11(金) 16:14:20.22ID:xwLAAkD3 北朝鮮がグアムに向けて撃つのはMusudan か Hwasong-12の中距離ミサイルで Hwasong-14のようなICBMではなく、THAADとAegis艦船のMDで対抗できる
For Guam, currently a THAAD battery is deployed to the island and Aegis missile defenses ships also are likely being deployed near the island in the event North Korea would attempt to strike the island. North Korea has three ICBMs, the Taepodong-2, Hwasong-13, and Hwasong-14. Those would not be used for strikes on Guam. Other medium-range or intermediate range missiles such as the Musudan or Hwasong-12 could be used. Those missiles can be countered by THAAD and Aegis ships.
"But when I look at where we need to invest in future missile defenses, I see the most important thing that we have to invest in right now would be increased sensor capabilities because we need to be able to characterize the threat wherever it is on the globe in order to be able to effectively respond to it with defenses." Hyten also favors adding sensors in space "because you can't have access to enough land points in the world to have a full sensor capability, so we need to go to space." 0822日出づる処の名無し2017/08/11(金) 16:42:06.94ID:xwLAAkD3http://www.newsweekjapan.jp/stories/world/2017/08/post-8188.php 核攻撃を生き残る方法(実際にはほとんど不可能) How to Survive a Nuclear Attack:Hide (But You'll Probably Die Anyway) 2017年8月10日(木)17時45分 クリス・リオッタ 0823日出づる処の名無し2017/08/11(金) 17:05:03.30ID:xwLAAkD3http://jbpress.ismedia.jp/articles/-/50775 マスコミの「反安倍」祭りはいつまで続くのか 朝日新聞が「ワイドショー化」したお家の事情 2017.8.11(金) 池田 信夫
If an attack warning is issued, take cover as quickly as you can, under concrete structure or below ground if possible, and stay there until instructed to do otherwise.
● Find the nearest building, preferably built of brick or concrete, and go inside to avoid any radioactive material outside. ● Stay where you are, even if you are separated from your family. Inside is the safest place for all people in the impacted area. It can save your life. ● Expect to stay inside for at least 24 hours unless otherwise told by authorities.(ry 0850日出づる処の名無し2017/08/11(金) 21:30:09.61ID:xwLAAkD3 People should also avoid going outside for at least 24 hours to avoid any possible radioactive material, unless otherwise told by authorities.
“We’re going to be increasing our budget by many billions of dollars because of North Korea and other reasons having to do with the anti-missile [aspect],” Trump told reporters at his golf club in Bedminster, N.J. “We’ll probably be able to report that over the next week,” Trump added. 0853日出づる処の名無し2017/08/11(金) 21:58:28.27ID:IcreeDnw 根拠は日本のTHAAD配備には報復までの対抗処置は撮ってないから程度の 薄い物ですがね
ここは雑談スレじゃなかったのかな? 0854日出づる処の名無し2017/08/11(金) 22:01:14.34ID:gXZ6kLfH Donald J. Trump?認証済みアカウント
@realDonaldTrump Military solutions are now fully in place,locked and loaded,should North Korea act unwisely. Hopefully Kim Jong Un will find another path! 0855日出づる処の名無し2017/08/11(金) 22:05:11.44ID:eqboHHUw そういや韓国のTHAADって沖縄を狙う弾道弾撃墜までカバーすんだっけ? そうだったら多少は気にかけるかもだが、そもそも支那がアメリカなり韓国なりに弾道弾使うかね 使わないなら別にミサイルなんでどうでもよかろう 0856日出づる処の名無し2017/08/11(金) 22:07:06.90ID:B5uj6dkP 「トランプは戦争やつつもりもないヘタレ」
または是非韓国軍の断首作戦に期待したい所_ 0865日出づる処の名無し2017/08/12(土) 01:55:53.34ID:g7ydrNZw なんかちょっとググったら在韓米国人て20万もいるらしいのだけど本当でしょうかね? 引っかかった記事が辺真一の記事なんでちょっと信憑性に欠けるんですよね ちなみに在日米国人は約5万、在中米国人は約1万らしいです 0866日出づる処の名無し2017/08/12(土) 02:30:47.78ID:qYvhVz16 北が優位ねぇ中国四川M7地震で運にも見放されたみたいだけど 0867日出づる処の名無し2017/08/12(土) 03:55:49.56ID:KoTwYL6khttps://www.axios.com/poll-majority-prefers-diplomatic-action-on-north-korea-2471523105.html Shane Savitsky 9 hrs ago 82% of Americans fear nuclear war with North Korea 世論調査:米国人の82%は北朝鮮との核戦争を危惧している
Most Americans are both paying attention to the news surrounding the nuclear threat from North Korea and worried about the potential for war, according to a new poll from Public Policy Polling, a Democratic polling firm, given exclusively to Axios. Data: Public Policy Polling, August 9-10, 2017; The poll was commissioned by Vote Vets, a progressive PAC focused on issues affecting veterans and troops.
Some highlights from the poll: 91% of Americans have paid at least some attention to the North Korea news with 63% giving a lot of attention to the issue. Those numbers were pretty constant among both parties. 54% of both Democrats and Republicans felt that war between the United States and North Korea is somewhat close ? while 26% of Democrats and 23% of Republicans think it's very close. 共和党と民主党の54%は北朝鮮との戦争が近いと見る。民主党の26%と共和党の 23%は、大変近いと見る
Diplomacy favored: Sizable majorities in both parties (82% of Democrats, 68% of Republicans) favor exhausting all diplomatic options in order to avoid war, and even bigger majorities (90% of Democrats, 80% of Republicans) support direct talks with North Korea before military action. An area of disagreement: While a plurality of Americans oppose a preemptive military strike to disable North Korea's nuclear capabilities, the parties themselves disagree ? a majority of Republicans would support it while a majority of Democrats would be opposed. 先制軍事攻撃については共和党の過半数が賛成、民主党の過半数は反対 0868日出づる処の名無し2017/08/12(土) 07:12:42.95ID:feOC0OFr 北朝鮮を擁護する中国メディア「チキンゲームで北は米に負けないだろう」 http://japanese.joins.com/article/242/232242.html